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The Myth of The Ideal Client

by Abby Kerr

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About this column

Tami SmithThis is a Contributor’s Post from former Voice Bureau Collaborative Partner and now, Advisor to Visionary Solopreneurs, Tami Smith.

As a business owner, you’ve been told: an ideal client is a very clear description of the type of client you would love to have more of.

What lens are you seeing your ideal client through? She or he may be an exact replica of a client you’re working with today, or she or he could be a combination of qualities you’ve seen in past and current clients.

You took this advice and you created your ideal client. You’ve even named her. (This is not so kooky as it may sound.) You care about her.

But even with your good intentions to cater to your ideal client through your business and your brand, something is missing.

You have a feeling you might have not be having the same experience as all those other people who rave about the power of knowing your ideal client, because you aren’t seeing or feeling much of a difference in your results.

Oh, the agony and the ecstasy of the Myth of the Ideal Client.

It’s true that ideal client profiling is supposed to be the Holy Grail of building a values-based microbusiness for the web today. And, well, we at The Voice Bureau agree.

But here’s what we see: it isn’t unusual for our incoming clients to feel like all the exercises they’ve done to define their Right Person were nothing more than going through the motions. If you’ve felt this way, rest assured, you aren’t the only business owner who’s had a temporary high of defining an ideal client, only to later feel like Meh. What was that all for, anyway?

An ideal client profile is supposed to be the most important aspect of your marketing. If ideal clients are so important, why doesn’t yours bring significant results?

There’s a good chance the way you created your ideal client is the real problem.

There are 6 common mistakes people make when creating an ideal client. Read on to see if you recognize your past efforts in one of these scenarios.

The 6 biggest mistakes people make when creating an ideal client:

Mistake No. 1: WISHLISTING

Wishlisting happens when you define your ideal client based on your wish list, or all the characteristics and qualities you would just love for her to have. This is the ideal client you “would love to have lunch with” and “hang out with” because she is just so darn nice.

  • What Wishlisting sounds like: This could sound like anything based on what would appeal most to you, the business owner. If you’re childfree by choice, she’s childfree by choice. If you like cupcakes, he likes cupcakes.  [Abby’s note: We jest. A little.] Chances are, your Right Person Profile sounds a lot like your dream best friend (you know, the one who “really needs your services”), or like someone you wish existed.
  • Where Wishlisting comes from: More than likely, we do this when we’ve absorbed the popularly taught notion that your ideal client is someone you’d like to have as a friend. This may indeed be true (as some of our Empathy Marketing clients find out), but it’s not the most effective place to start getting a picture of your ideal client.
  • Why Wishlisting doesn’t ultimately work: When we use ourselves as the focal point — if I’d be her friend, she’d be a good client for me –– we risk letting our own ego, our own personal needs, or our own projections of ourselves creep into our Right Person Profile, thus missing the true needs of the person Most Likely To Buy from us.

Mistake No. 2: HODGEPODGING

Hodgepodging is when your ideal client is a hodgepodge of various people, usually all your favorite attributes out of the clients you’ve worked with so far.

  • What Hodgepodging sounds like: “Hank is a 28-year old web developer and unisex jewelry designer who comes from privilege and money (and so has plenty in a trust fund to spend on my services), yet chooses to live a rather minimalist, ascetic life. He’s outgoing, kind, but can also be kind of a jerk in relationships and he doesn’t know why. He refers to himself as a ‘bacon-eating Vegan.’ He wants to travel the world on a dime, reduce his carbon footprint, create big social change (through his jewelry line), and have a great relationship at some point — after he figures out if he should chuck both of his current career pursuits and start a band. After all, you only live once, and why not let it be epic?”
  • Where Hodgepodging comes from: There’s a notion that “if I could just take his grit, her experience, and his sense of humor, I’d have the perfect client!” But alas, people are not hybrids of many different people. They are themselves. Your Right Person deserves to have a complete, nuanced identity unto herself, complete with high sides, low sides, strengths, weaknesses, gifts, and challenges. (And, huge bonus: your Right Person, as unique as he or she is, represents many people.)
  • Why Hodgepodging doesn’t ultimately work: Just like you and me, your ideal client is imperfect, full of internal tensions and paradoxes, and is consistently inconsistent. When we fail to regard and respect our ideal clients as the whole human beings they are, we miss out on lots of opportunities to connect with and serve them.

Mistake No. 3: CAVALIERING

You’re Cavaliering when you define your ideal client around all her problems or claim you can help her with “anything” because you have “the power of helping people get clear.” Like boiling the ocean, this is a problem of trying to solve too many problems at once, often using a single tool.

  • What Cavaliering sounds like: “Miranda is tortured. She hates her messy closets — she thinks of them as ‘closets of shame.’ On the outside, she’s warm, competent, and pulled together. Her friends and neighbors would never suspect that underneath her cool exterior, lies a tidal wave of unopened mail, years’ worth of receipts, and clothing with the tags still on — all enclosed behind the perfectly painted-and-trimmed doors of her suburban upper middle class home. She’s not just messy, she’s desperate, lonely inside, and feels ugly and worthless because of what she’s keeping stuffed inside her closets. She wants to get a grip, she NEEDS to get a grip, and when she finds me, she knows that someone can finally help her get clear. She sees that I’ve done it for myself, and she automatically believes that I can help her do it, too. She knows I can help her with more than closet organizing — I can help her get clear on who she wants to be. Because I am that woman she wants to be more like.”
  • Where Cavaliering comes from: The origin of Cavaliering is the misguided belief that people reach out for help when they are all but flattened by their pain, and thus respond to sales pages full of pain points and Calls To Action that promise to save them. Also, in some cases, Cavaliering comes from — dare I say it? — a God(dess) complex: too much ego projection into the business. This often sounds like: “I’ve been put on this planet to help women like you do X, Y, and Z! It’s my gift to the world and to you, so you, too, can live a fuller, richer, sweeter life — just like me.” Oftentimes, it’s presented in a more subtle way than that, but the subtext is still clear: my life rocks, and I can help you make your life rock, too.
  • Why Cavaliering doesn’t ultimately work: Despite what some ‘turn up the heat’ marketers will tell you, people don’t seek solutions from the depths of their despair. Usually, people buy products and services from integrity-based businesses when they are in a more resourceful, emotionally integrated place. In fact, some values-based coaches and consultants have a policy where they refuse to start work with a client who’s in crisis mode. A healthy, resourceful buyer is still aware of his pain points (as awareness of pain points is a critical piece of the buying process), but he’s standing on his own two feet again, looking to the future, and ready to do something about his problem. He doesn’t need (or want) you to save him.

Mistake No. 4: STEPFORD WIFING

This is similar to Wishlisting, but instead of including ‘everything but the kitchen sink,’ Stepford Wifing draws the description of the ideal client into a very narrow view of the person, one who perfectly fits your needs, whims, and predilections as a business owner. (You’ve seen the movie or read the American cult classic novel, The Stepford Wives? It’s a satirical thriller.) Meanwhile, your ideal client’s imperfections are glossed over, as you narrow in on her extreme and oversimplified needs/desires.

  • What Stepford Wifing sounds like: “Marika is a smart, savvy, fit 40-year old wife and mama who, although her family lives on a tight budget, always manages to pay for her premium fitness coaching with me. Despite staying home with 4 kids under the age of 10 while her devoted husband works full-time plus, she never skimps on personal time because she understands the importance of putting herself first. She manages to maintain her size 6 figure through healthy eating and regular intentional movement, though it isn’t always easy. All of this plus she uses social media like candy so she’s a HUGE brand evangelist for me!”
  • Where Stepford Wifing comes from: Fear — specifically, the business owner’s fear that a “real” person with “real” problems and “real” challenges won’t hire her. So she draws her Right Person Profile to a (rather self-serving) tee.
  • Why Stepford Wifing doesn’t ultimately work: When you gloss over a potential client’s challenges, struggles, and imperfections, you risk having her miss herself on your sales pages. If she can’t see herself reflected in your brand, she won’t buy, because she won’t believe you ‘get’ her.

Mistake No. 5: BANDWAGONING

Bandwagoning happens when you jump on the bandwagon of whatever the popular teaching is and use a list of over simplified, means-nothing-really-but-sounds-good qualifiers as your ideal client characteristics. Bandwagoning oversimplifies the holistic and the nuanced aspects of what it means to stand in your Right Person’s shoes.

  • What Bandwagoning sounds like: “My ideal client is ready for what I have to offer, and happily pays what I’m asking without question because he sees the value in it.” Is this true? But of course. It’d better be. Is this all there is to understanding your Right Person? Absolutely not. Do these qualifiers help you see, clearly and with empathy, what your ideal client’s core needs and motivators are, his developmental desires, and his emotional triggers (for better and for worse)? Not even almost.
  • Where Bandwagoning comes from: Again, fear. And then dismissiveness of the necessity for a deep understanding of who your business can serve best. Knowing your Right Person and practicing empathy as you design your brand conversation for her is a complex practice. It requires us, as business owners, to go deep and to set our own assumptions aside. When this gets too difficult, it’s all too easy just to say, “Ba-da-boom, ba-da-bing: here’s all I need to know. The rest is just extraneous details.”
  • Why Bandwagoning doesn’t ultimately work: When we design our brand and our offers based on assumptions about who our ideal clients are (or, worse, when we say, it doesn’t matter who they are as long as they need what I’m selling and will pay my price), we end up with a Throwing Spaghetti At The Wall To See What Sticks brand. We become a hammer, to whom everything and everyone looks like a nail. Boom! There’s a problem. I can design a solution. Boom! She’s got a symptom. I can address it!

Mistake No. 6: SHADOWING

In shadowing, a business owner unconsciously projects his or her own problem onto an ideal client. Projection is a psychological defense mechanism where you “project” undesirable or unacceptable thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings onto someone else, in order to distance yourself from the discomfort of experiencing them for oneself.

  • What Shadowing sounds like: Shadowing can take many forms. But if reading your Right Person narrative — Ohmygod, that’s meeeeeeee! — feels like reading a page from your diary, you’re probably Shadowing.
  • Where Shadowing comes from: The current microbusiness coaching landscape sometimes pushes us toward the idea that a powerful Value Proposition comes from taking people through the transformation you yourself underwent to get the results you got. While bringing your own personal experience into your brand can be a wonderful and valuable thing (in fact, how to invite your story in strategically is part of the work we do with Empathy Marketing clients), problems start when a business owner can’t see past her own projections of what her ideal client might want and need.
  • Why Shadowing doesn’t ultimately work: Shadowing can often turn up online in the form of what a writer friend of Abby’s [Abby’s note: Hi, Angela!] calls a “vanity venture.” In essence, the business exists to reflect back to the business owner that she has done a good enough job of healing herself, or fixing herself, or creating for herself the result she wants. While this is by no means a ‘wrong’ reason to have an online presence, Shadowing is not at the heart of a values-based business that offers a viable solution in the marketplace.

Why these mistakes will keep you from realizing the benefits of an ideal client

Your ideal client isn’t one person, a hodgepodge, or a wish list of characteristics. An ideal client isn’t a projection or a tidy little list of how much she values you. An ideal client is an ideal list of qualifications that make someone more inclined to buy your solution, rather than less inclined.

Creating a persona — what we at The Voice Bureau call a Right Person — is a way to avoid the common mistakes in creating ideal client scenarios.

A Right Person persona should:

  • Represent a buyer who shares the problem, paradox, and desires your solution is designed to address

  • Highlight search intent (queries and questions being asked in search)

  • Explain core motivators, desires, emotional needs, and buying preferences

  • Provide a logical way to create content that is optimized for the core practical  and emotional need of your Right Person

Your Right Person Persona will become your ideal client profile. When you understand who she or he is, you understand what he or she wants from you, and why.

When you get to this next level of clarity and create an ideal client based on methods that are proven to work, you will understand the relationship between you and your ideal client. You will see how your strengths, experiences, and intrinsic Voice Values serve your ideal client.

Your ideal client profile, created in an empathic way, is the key to articulating your Brand Proposition and your USP, and it’s the key to crafting even more effective Calls To Action.

Knowing what to say and how to say it unlocks those places where you feel stuck.

Feeling stuck and frustrated about not being able to articulate a strong Brand Proposition isn’t an experience unique to you or your brand (thank goodness, right?). It is incredibly rare to find microbusiness owners confident and clear about how they are a better choice for their ideal clients.

We think it’s important for you to know that these things aren’t easy to do and to know that persona development can bring clarity to your entire process of bringing a new brand online, or realigning an existing brand.

Your Right People are important. Understanding yours at an intimate level will bring significant results when created the right way.

In the comments, Abby & I would love to hear:

What hasn’t worked for you so far in getting clear on your ideal client? What popularly taught advice has fallen flat for you? Have you had experience with one of the 6 Mistakes described above? We look forward to discussing this with you in the comments.

{ 53 comments… read them below or add one }

Emma Alvarez Gibson May 13, 2013 at 6:33 pm

Excellent piece, Tami. I wish that every entrepreneur on the planet could read it!
Well done.

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 8:06 am

Thank you, Emma!

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Abby Kerr May 14, 2013 at 10:12 am

Emma, as a copywriter, would you say that it’d be easier for you to write great copy if your clients were clear on who their Right Person is?

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Tara- Such Different Skies May 13, 2013 at 7:16 pm

This is friggen amazing! Thank you SO much for going into so much detail. I am DEFINITELY feeling called away from ‘typical’ sales pages and copy.

I want to get my message out there in a sharp, succint, relatable way.

Thank you again x

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 8:09 am

Hi, Tara

I feel it too. The typical sales page isn’t going to work in this new way of truly *meeting* people where they are, and offering value.

Thank you for the affirmation. :)

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Abby Kerr May 14, 2013 at 10:13 am

Hi, Tara! —

So, you’re inspiring me to finally get The Voice Bureau’s service pages for writing sales pages up on the site! Thank you.

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Molly Morrissey May 13, 2013 at 8:13 pm

Thanks for this post. It is helpful since I’m part of the way there with my Right Person profile, though I can see still more to learn.

And yes, it is tough. As I finish my first swipe at sales pages, I am totally clear that getting the language right about where they are at and the position of my different services is not easy.

So thanks so much for this checklist of ideas to keep track of as I continue. And for such a clear and articulate piece.

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 8:13 am

Molly,

Thanks for sharing your process with this. It isn’t always easy. It wasn’t for me either.

Can’t wait to see what you are about to launch!

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Abby Kerr May 14, 2013 at 10:13 am

Thanks for being here, Molly. Clear and articulate is one of our goals!

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Jane Manthorpe May 13, 2013 at 10:33 pm

Hi Tami, this was a great eye-opening article. I am in the middle of working out my true ideal client. Have worked on a version of what I think is my ideal client and looking at the 6 mistakes you list, I think I may have done some shadowing.

As I worked through an exercise to hone my ideal client, with questions based on demographics and Physiological characteristics I based my ideal client as myself. I did this because my business is sharing my knowledge, experiences and health journey to overcome an illness and so empowering people to live the healthy lifestyle I know works to be free of illness.

Since I am new to the online world, I have had few clients to base and establish an ideal client from, or gain experience of what type of client I like and work well with.

I have been told that sometimes your ideal client is you, especially if you are sharing a life story like mine specific to curing a certain illness. Do you agree on this? would like your views.

I have also heard that you ideal client is someone you enjoy working with. My ideal client in this area would be someone like me who is experiencing what I went through before I found a solution via the holistic natural way of living. in view of this, I can then know and feel how they are suffering and relate to them at a deep level of empathy.

Or have approached this all wrong and need to do some research. If so what kind of research do I need to do to come up with my ideal client?

I must of admit answering demographics and Physiological characteristic questions on finding your ideal client hard to do and kept thinking, “do I really have to do this?” would I not eventually find my ideal client by actually working with the clients I “best guested or resembled me” as my potential clients, and going from there and honing in?

Thanks Tami
Jane

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 8:34 am

Hi, Jane

You posed an excellent scenario and questions. I can completely understand the logic in making an ideal client *you* when around a specific illness. There is always natural resonance, and even bonding, over shared experiences. To answer your question, can your ideal client be you? I would say no. At least you don’t end up there. You can start with being your ideal client, thinking about what you would want to have found and heard before you found the solution/resolution. It is important to feel into and express your emotional response without projecting. I think this is tricky but always comes down to owning our own experience and knowing it is ours for a reason.

You might not need to know with certainty who is going to want to buy from you, in your case, because you are meeting a very specific need.

The level of clarity in ideal clients needs to increase with each step away from a specific need/solution. If you know, and can verify you have the right language, you are more than half-way there. The other aspect is how competitive of an environment are you in? Is the illness rare? How many choices does your ideal client have? Will they be able to find you, to include you, in their decision? This is the sort of inquiry to do. Don’t get too hung up on the profiles until you know what level of clarity is needed.

I’m sure honing in will happen over time as you work with a variety of people. It is just a matter of getting enough people to see what the common threads are – those things that really make someone your Right Person.

I hope I am answering in a way that is helpful. I can hear your sincere desire to meet and serve your RP. Keep us posted!

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Tami Stackelhouse May 14, 2013 at 1:35 pm

Jane,

I coach and I lead a support community for women with fibromyalgia. I am a woman & I have fibromyalgia. For a long time I thought that my idea client was me.

Then I had a big “ah-ha” moment: My ideal clients are NOT like me because I was able to overcome my fibro *on my own.* My idea client can’t and needs ME. =)

I can draw a lot from how I used to feel to get in touch with my idea client. In fact, the core part of my tagline came from some free writing I did about how I used to feel with my illness. I felt like a prisoner in my own body. My ideal clients will relate to that, for sure.

But what I’m selling them isn’t actually coaching. It’s that *something else* that let me rise above my illness, find hope, and get free.

Since it sounds like you’re working with a similar scenario, I thought I’d share that. =)

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Jane Manthorpe May 15, 2013 at 1:32 am

Thank you so much Tami for replying and sharing your scenario, it was very helpful. As you say, my clients are not me as we are all unique in our personalities and characteristics. I had the drive and passion to find my own natural solution to my illness which is just me, it came to natural to me to do this, of which other people may not have this way of thinking, and so, as you say they need me to guide and support them to find their own solution. And sharing my story and experience by sharing how I felt, went through and the solution I ended up with, can help them decided or contribute to their own journey to health. This was so helpful, so thanks again. :)

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Jane Manthorpe May 15, 2013 at 1:39 am

Tami, thank your for responding with a great reply. I understand now that I am not my ideal client, but I can engage and reach my audience by sharing my experiences and what I went through and my story to health to help them decide if its the journey for them to take. I like what you say “thinking about what you would want to have found and heard before you found the solution/resolution. It is important to feel into and express your emotional response without projecting.” this gave me a real idea on how I can communicate to my audience. Thank you :) as you say, it will take time to working with a few people to hone in on my Right Person. great post

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Susan May 14, 2013 at 7:32 am

What a deep post, Tami! I’m feelin’ a little like I just got off the therapist’s sofa (in a good way). Lots of introspection to be done from these insights, thank you.

I saw bits of myself all over this post–still have work to do. It wasn’t all bad news though; I can say that I there is much of this that I have already come through so that’s a relief.

For me, I think the shadowing thing is probably the hardest to discern. How do you know if you’re projecting or if your RP has some similarities with your story because your work is partly from a survivor standpoint? (I know… get Empathy Marketing! :) )

One point of projecting that I do think I was doing was giving my RP the wrong Voice Values. I want to work with mature people so either she needs to have similar VV and NOT be mature or she needs to be mature in different VV to my primary ones. I vote the latter for this business (though, not for my next project idea perhaps where mentoring is the agenda). At least this is my thinking for the moment. It’s how I’ve dealt with the fear/problem of creating a RP who I don’t really want to work with even though she would probably find my work helpful.

Thanks for the great post!

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 8:04 am

Hi, Susan

Always love hearing your take on these things.

The thing with projection is you don’t know when you are doing it. :)
There is nothing wrong with having a strong storyline (survivor based) as an undercurrent. I don’t see that as projection but more tapping into universal aspects of being human. Projection would be denying those aspects of yourself.

The idea is to remember this is a layering process where all the layers of your RP’s desire, need, emotional atmosphere, and buying path is considered in alignment with your brand.

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Susan May 14, 2013 at 8:48 am

Right… and missing some of those layers is exactly what I fear. Miss the layers of structure in the building process and you end up with a Leaning Tower of Pisa Buyer Persona.

I NEED EMPATHY MARKETING!

This was reassuring though. I don’t think I’m projecting then… at least not about the things I was concerned about!

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Tamisha May 14, 2013 at 9:53 am

Warning: Empathy Marketing plug and heartfelt comment.

This post is fantastic, Tami. Thanks to you and Abby for giving us such rich content to contemplate. Love it. And having just finished Empathy Marketing with the both of you recently, I feel compelled to let people know it’s MORE than worth it!

In trying to be as diplomatic as possible, I have to say I have fallen victim to Wishlisting, Cavaliering, Stepford Wifing, Bandwagoning, and Shadowing over the past 3 or so years (before going through Empathy Marketing). It is VERY frustrating coming into the online space and seeing all the “cliques” and “tribes” already formed, and also simultaneously trying to find your own voice, USP, and Brand Proposition, whilst also trying to “fit in” which is really not why we’re here anyway – we’re here to do the work that our Right Person needs. However, I feel this is a HUGE influencer of the above mistakes.

When a person decides to come into the online space, these mistakes are EASY to fall prey to – especially if you have no idea who your Right Person is right out of the gate (does anyone?).

I invested in a few other programs to attempt to really know this, but continued to be frustrated. The needle would move, but not be sustainable. Move some more, then not be sustainable. I feel like E.M. finally answered this for me, and I’m forever grateful.

If I may, I’d like to add one mistake I also made (which hopefully I didn’t somehow miss above), but I’d call it ‘Dovetailing.’ Sort of like bandwagoning, but it looks like “oh, I think my service or product could look a LOT like hers, but here’s how I’m different/better. Unlike her, I __________ and I’ve been through ________. I may not have _______, but I can offer my clients _______.” Then, taking that & running – thinking we have a USP. Taking portions of someone else’s ideas we love and trying to add unique things about ourself to that same solution and calling it unique.

Didn’t work. Difficult when you’re first starting out, but a real time waster.

Something else I’d like to say. Empathy Marketing was not on the market when many of us cam into the online space, so we did the best we could at the time with what was available. I’d like to say to those folks that there should never be any regret about investing in other programs – I believe they’re all valuable in their own way. In fact, combining them is one of the most powerful ways to get the most knowledge (in my opinion). Have some compassion on yourself and the process – honor yourself for the work you HAVE done and that Empathy Marketing is available to you now.

I know I will continue to learn more and more about my R.P. as we all will. What I loved about Empathy Marketing is that even though Abby & Tami lay out a deeply nuanced picture of your Right Person, you NEVER feel like it’s so locked in that there’s no room to move and grow with her. In fact, the persona process was quite emotional for me – in a good way – I finally felt like I could stop guessing and making these mistakes, but rather move into curiosity and connection with her.

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Abby Kerr May 14, 2013 at 11:17 am

Tamisha, thank you for this beautiful reflection of your experience doing Empathy Marketing. I’m so glad to hear you say that while you got all of the nuance and detail and depth you were hoping for in your Right Person Profile, you also experienced it as a flexible and expansive concept that could adapt to your work as it changes and evolves (which it WILL).

I’d love to get your take on this, if you have time: what would you say to someone who’s on the fence because they’re worried they don’t know enough about their Right Person yet to do Empathy Marketing? (That’s a concern we sometimes hear.)

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Tamisha May 14, 2013 at 12:49 pm

I would say I understand because that was a short-lived but definitely present objection or concern I had at first too. I was nervous y’all were gonna be like “dang girl, you have NO clue!” and I was gonna feel like an idiot (real talk). THAT didn’t happen at all.

I say short-lived because I realized it wasn’t a valid concern through looking at the preview video (several times) and reading the E.M. sales page (several more times). I, too, worried I didn’t “know enough about her” to even start, but the opposite ended up being true. And honestly, sometimes you have to be hungry enough to make a difference that you don’t sit in indecision for another 6 months or a year. You’re robbing your Right Person the longer you wait. No one will be able to serve her the way you can.

During intake, you are putting everything out there – everything you know, everything you THINK you know – everything you assume you know about her. This is where that emotional competency comes in (at least it did for me). It’s not about knowing her completely up front – if so, there’d be no need for Empathy Marketing, and I fully trusted Abby & Tami’s ability to show her to me in a real way. So you have to just decide that your right person is worth enough for you to bare it all and be vulnerable and show up.

Once I was done, I saw a clear picture because you challenged some of my assumptions and they made perfect sense. No questions asked – I knew I was off the mark. And other areas, I was right on and it felt good. I think a person ONLY needs to be willing to learn and accept where they might be making assumptions.

I was “off” in many areas about my Right Person. I’d go so far as to say I was only about 40% on point. it felt good to have the other 60% clarified! :-)

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Susan May 14, 2013 at 2:47 pm

This was good to hear, Tamisha, thank you. (Although I’m not doubting, it’s good to see this articulated.)

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Tamisha May 14, 2013 at 5:51 pm

You’re welcome, Susan. :-)

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 3:34 pm

Tamisha, you articulated so many aspects of our goal for EM.

It was fascinating to watch you go through the process of seeing how your strengths and experience plays a big role in the value you offer, in a little different way than you had been considering. You really *showed up* and opened in a way that allowed the insights to inform us.

There is an obivous “great-fit” persona every single time we go through the method of connecting the dots. Hope we can feature you as a case study, soon!

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Tamisha May 14, 2013 at 5:53 pm

Thanks, Tami. I love that – “great fit” persona. That’s exactly what it felt like. Like “home.”

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Abby Kerr May 14, 2013 at 3:35 pm

Thank you, Tamisha. That’s really interesting about the 40%/60% split. From my perspective, I’d say that feels about accurate from my perspective, too. As you know from your experience, you bring an internal sense or hunch about who the person you best serve is, and we bring our methodology to bear to fill in all the gaps. I deeply appreciate your willingness to share your experience here!

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Tamisha May 14, 2013 at 5:56 pm

Haha. Awesome, Abby. I typed 20/80, then 30/70 and landed on 40/60. Was trying to give myself a little more cushion & credit. Haha!

And yes, I loved the “gap-fillage” process as it were. Very helpful.

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Abby Kerr May 15, 2013 at 8:32 am

Ooh! Also, wanted to say that DOVETAILING would be the *perfect* 7th edition to this list. Thanks for pointing out that dynamic — which I have seen a lot of, and I’m sure you have, too!

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Mindy Crary May 14, 2013 at 10:34 am

Tami, this is an awesome article and I am reminded of when I went through B-School, how much trouble we all had with the client avatar exercise! We sure could have used this to help clarify what we were doing! I am definitely bookmarking this, because I feel like that exercise is never done for me! Thanks for the great post!

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Abby Kerr May 14, 2013 at 11:15 am

Thank YOU, Mindy! Tami’s and my goal is help make actionable all these big ideas that are so crucial to building a sustainable business.

Now that you mention B-School, I couldn’t help but notice that Marie interviewed Ramit Sethi today about this very topic — getting more specific about your ideal client so you can develop an offer she’d love to buy. This interview does a great job of pointing out WHY we need to understand our Right Person, but it’s a bit short on the HOW: http://www.marieforleo.com/2013/05/sell-more/#more-5304

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 12:25 pm

Thank you, Mindy! That is a great endorsement.

I was just looking at all the comments, from the post Abby linked to above, and I can see why this idea of getting specific (in defining an ideal client) continues to be a problem. It isn’t just a matter of deciding to narrow in from a 35-60 year woman to a 25-30 something woman, like so many are doing in the attempt to get specific. Demographics and psychographical details have to tie back and connect to why they matter *in relation* to a value proposition.

You are far from alone in feeling like this has been a never-ending exercise. It doesn’t have to be though. Clarity around the intersections of what we do, how we do it, and who will appreciate it, can free up a lot of energy (it feels good).

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Lauren May 14, 2013 at 1:57 pm

Thanks so much for this. I have just been through B-School and the customer avatar is still haunting me. I did the exercise and walked away feeling deflated – like it was something I just didn’t ‘get’. This has given me a bit more clarity as to why this may be – I can see what I’ve been doing all through this article. I’m going back to the drawing board armed with this information, thanks :)

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 3:19 pm

Lauren, thank you for sharing your experience. You are obviously not alone! Sometimes knowing what not to do, can bring you closer to clarity. :) Appreciate your comment.

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Wendie Tobin May 14, 2013 at 4:41 pm

This is one of those times that I feel really discouraged that society has ruined words such as awesome and epic. This piece? Awesome and epic! Seriously, this is so detailed, mindful, and just valuable.

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Abby Kerr May 15, 2013 at 8:34 am

Wendie, thanks! It was a fun one to read for me, too. Our goal is to bring rich, actionable stuff to our blog without giving away the work that keeps us in business. ;)

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Corinne May 14, 2013 at 5:22 pm

Greatly informative piece with lots of information about what an ideal client avatar is not and why we need a profile of the Right Person. Yet this piece falls woefully short on HOW to develop that Right Person persona, which just leaves the reader back at Square One.

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tamismith May 14, 2013 at 6:07 pm

Hi, Corrine

While there are some refrences to HOW to develop a Right Person persona, this isn’t a detailed, step-by-step, how-to, because the way of arriving at a Right Person persona takes more than the normal or common ways we’ve seen – listed in the six mistakes. Taking time to dig deeper into the actual value you are bringing, what you are offering, and how it is different from other choices is the basis for determining some of the characteristics of an ideal client avatar. How do you know the core motivators, desires, emotional needs, and buying preferences? How do you know how your ideal client will go about looking for information? These are very elemental parts of a brand proposition and too often skipped, in the rush to create an ideal client profile. Empathy Marketing was created to bridge this gap and build a cohesive and holistic approach to reaching and engaging Right People. So, while I agree this post doesn’t give the detailed process of creating an ideal client avatar, it also doesn’t leave the reader at Square One. It leaves many with a better understanding of why some of the common practices around ideal client creation isn’t working. And hopefully, a new perspective to think, question, and read more of the posts here… or reach out for help.

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Abby Kerr May 15, 2013 at 8:40 am

Hi, Corinne —

Thanks for the encouragement, and I can understand the frustration of wanting a step-by-step blueprint on how to arrive at a Right Person profile that works for your business and isn’t just a pie-in-the-sky cut-out doll (my words, not yours). I do appreciate the critique.

As I alluded to with Wendie in my reply to her, above, our philosophy is that we use our blog to stir important questions and invite inquiry on the part of our readers, but we don’t unfold every aspect of our methodology, which is what makes us, well, a business! Also, the work of understanding an individual business owner’s Most Likely To Buy reader is complex and depends on many factors. I wouldn’t want to oversimplify it and risk someone doing a DIY implementation that gets them to less-than-complete results.

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Julia May 14, 2013 at 6:20 pm

Wow, Tami, thanks so much for writing this in-depth breakdown of the mistakes we can make when developing our ideal client profile. I’ve been working on this on and off over the last few months, and have definitely Wishlisted, Stepford-Wifed, Bandwagoned and Shadowed, and maybe am still doing bits of these… Lots of food for thought, and love the nuance this gives to the concept of our ICP.

When I first started building my site and writing the copy, I didn’t even have enough clients to know where to start. That was a major challenge. Reading “think about who you want to work with” just felt like I was making empty affirmations to myself ;) Now I have a slighhhhtly clearer idea, but it’s definitely a work-in-progress.

Btw, just wanted to add that the Emotional Competency calls you guys did had some good learning points for me too – am only halfway through the second one, but thank you for doing them! :)

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Abby Kerr May 15, 2013 at 8:45 am

Hey, Julia —

Thanks for sharing your history with profiling your Right Person for your business.

You are absolutely correct that it’s hard to know who your ideal client is when you haven’t yet worked with any clients, *if* you’re assuming you HAVE to have worked with clients first to have data to draw from. The Voice Bureau’s point of view on Right Person Profiling doesn’t hinge on whether a client has served clients of their own yet. Right Person Profiling is for *every* brand (no matter how new or how much experience under the belt), and it’s entirely possible to head in the right direction with a Brand Proposition, a USP, and a content strategy even before having served a paying client.

Also, I’m glad to hear that you’re enjoying the Emotional Competency calls. Tami and I had such a great time doing those, I’m sure that series is only the first of many free call series to come.

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Julia May 15, 2013 at 9:01 pm

Thanks for your reply, Abby, that’s definitely a new perspective for me! Guess it must be related to the Voice Values. Looking forward to finding out what mine are tonight!

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Abby Kerr May 16, 2013 at 10:13 am

Please keep me posted! (Also, if you’re on Google+, there’s a good discussion ongoing about Voice Values in our private G+ Voice Bureau Community. Would love to see you there.)

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Nikki May 15, 2013 at 6:53 am

AWESOME post. Totally guilty of wishlisting AND hodgepodging. Thanks for writing and sharing, ladies.

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Abby Kerr May 15, 2013 at 8:46 am

Now that we have nifty names to call them by, I’m not even embarrassed to cop to my past Right Person Profiling mistakes! ;)

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Frances May 15, 2013 at 8:45 am

Wow, this was such an eye-opening post. Totally guilty of cavaliering – it’s THE most taught way IMO. Also have been guilty of shadowing. The funny thing is, even though I’ve done it, both these techniques really never resonated with me. I’ve kinda always felt that when people come to your site, no matter what you do, they don’t want to be reminded OVER & OVER of their pain, their struggle.

Some websites I’ve visited in the past really sound so depressing! “Are you sad? Are you lonely? Are you about to climb a mountain and throw yourself down from it? I WAS THERE! I was at the edge of the cliff and then it hit me: I CAN HELP OTHERS NOT DO THE SAME!” LOL ;)

My ideal client is moms, and “cavaliering” or “shadowing” them has not worked for me.
I actually just changed my homepage copy after reading this. Thanks soo much!

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Abby Kerr May 15, 2013 at 8:49 am

Hey, Frances! —

Kudos to you on your quick implementation. Brava!

I cracked up reading your faux copy up there. My colleague Mark Silver at Heart of Business calls this “giving them the third degree.” As Creative Director of a copywriting agency, I instruct our copywriters not to come on so strong on the home page. It’s a delicate balance between helping Right People site visitors feel seen and “gotten,” and pushing them away through too much heat. You get that!

Thanks for commenting. :)

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Caroline Frenette Master Intuitive Coach May 15, 2013 at 8:51 am

The amount of contractive information on figuring out the Ideal Customer Avatar is dizzying!

Your right people may not want to be saved (mine don’t either) but this does not apply to every potential client out there on the planet; some people wanna be saved!

This blog post is written for your “right people” and empathy marketing is your “right people” therefore this a great example of writing/selling to your right peeps, cause they are going to agree with you in some way.

Personally, most exercise and marketing courses on creating an Ideal Client Avatar were very frustrating to me. The exercises felt too much like “inventing” and like a lie.

After about 6 months of frustration, I finally brought the concept of discovering my ideal client into a series of intuitive coaching and then (and only then) did I get the most profound answers + information. Bypassed the ego, the mind, the presumptions and got straight to the core, the essence of who she is. Changed my business.

I’m definitely curious to see how you bring it all together in empathy marketing.

XO

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Caroline Frenette Master Intuitive Coach May 16, 2013 at 5:10 am

contradictory not contractive LOL although it does feel contracted when I’m confused and frustrated!

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Abby Kerr May 16, 2013 at 10:16 am

Hey, Caroline! —

Thanks for that clarification. I wasn’t quite sure what was meant by ‘contractive.’ ‘Contradictory’ makes sense, and yes — I agree! It seems every business coach, branding specialist (including me), and marketing expert has a take on how to do it best. I think it’s important to admit that while we at The Voice Bureau espouse a way to arrive at a Right Person Profile — based on what we see as empathic and useful and grounded in science and psychology and intuition — there is more than one ‘right’ way to do anything, and ultimately, if someone is meeting his or her business goals by using a different approach, that’s what matters most.

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Maia June 13, 2013 at 9:51 am

Just read this post and all the comments!

Very eye opening, indeed. I’m totally guilty of thinking my right person was me and now realizing that it isn’t. I have a skin care business that offers customization, because I thought my ideal customer, like me would be interested in learning about ingredients and mixing them to their liking. Well that may be part of it, but if that person were just me, they would probably be creating their own skin care lines like I did! So obviously there are other motivations I hadn’t thought about. :)

I think I’m also guilty of the newly defined “Dovetailing” as well. It’s kind of like saying the dreaded, “Me too” but adding a “but” at the end in an effort to be different.

Reading this has been super insightful. Thanks!

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Vincenzo February 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm

Thanks for your article. It helped me look at some of the questions and ways I am looking at my ideal client. As you say I looked at the clients I worked with, mixed them up. Then stopped. I looked at myself and my mirror and stopped. I try to look at the issues that I deal with my clients as a coach but do not have any favorites.
So I am still on the drawing board trying to picture my ideal client.
regards Vincenzo

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Jessica-Lynn Sage June 12, 2015 at 1:56 pm

This is SO true. And pretty funny, too!

I teach my clients to attract ideal clients based on Love first. Because the traditional “determine your ideal client avatar” just never worked for me. But when I started using a “these are the types of idiosyncrasies I DON’T like in clients” FIRST, followed by transforming those dislikes into likes, then finally infusing the like with LOVE, my business completely transformed!! Completely!!

Attracting clients became fun and graceful, and actually really, really easy. Then anytime a not so ideal client would creep in I’d go back and re-evaluate my “ideal client avatar”. The method I’m describing is so much more about an ideal client’s character and their values, and less about their “isms”. LOL

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Abby Kerr June 12, 2015 at 3:58 pm

Love this approach, Jessica-Lynn. Fine-tuning that internal ‘screening’ or ‘filtering’ device is a key part of starting a client relationship off on the right foot . . . before you even work together!

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Gold Coast Business Coach November 10, 2015 at 5:08 pm

What a very good article. I will certainly be drawing from this when helping clients create their own persona of their ideal client. I see it regularly when people either create a persona that doesn’t exist. Or they create a persona of people they love to work with but ultimately people who are not ready to buy, so your point on being in the depths of despair were very true.

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